Three interesting posts at The Seduction Community

The magic over at The Seduction Community is already happening, and some very good posts have already appeared.

My buddy Sixty has re-posted his classic "Anti-Manifesto", which you should definitely check out if you haven't already.

I consider this an anti-manifesto because most strategies usually focus on what you need to do or say. There is nothing to say. There is nothing to do.

Your whole life you have been doing things to lessen tension. You have always tried to make everybody else around you feel more comfortable at your own expense. You do this with your friends, your co-workers and especially the women you like. When things get tense or awkward you're the big clown making everyone laugh and feel comfortable. Even when girls reject you, you are more worried about their comfort level than your own. You don't want her to feel awkward. Aw!

This is bad because doing things to help women feel more comfortable with the sexual tension will be viewed by her as supplication. A woman is never going to be attracted to a man that can handle LESS sexual tension than she can.

But there is some new blood, too. Warped Mindless wrote an article on "The ESP Model of Escalation." The acronym stands for Eye Contact, Sexualization, Physical Touch.

Most guys go about touching women the wrong way. They give her a little should touch when she says something funny, or gives her a little high five to reward her for something she does that he likes. Lame touches like this isn't going to turn the woman on. She isn't going to want to drop her pants and spread her legs because you gave her a tap on the shoulder or a small pat on the back. If anything she will just think your weird and honestly, she would be right.

The right way to touch a woman in to touch her like a man. Every thing you do in an interaction should be "From a man to a woman" kind of way. Not as her friend, not as her buddy, but as a MAN.

It is definitely a good reminder for guys who are afraid of being sexual when they are out to pick up women.

Lastly, Illuminatus wrote an insightful post with the title "Women do not actually know why they find you attractive!". If you are not familiar with Illuminatus's writing, you should definitely check him out, because he has a gift for getting at the core of problems (and in a completely non-rambling way, too).

The issue with asking women what it is they like, at its core, is neither that the reasons women give are all different, nor that they share some hidden commonality, but rather that the feeling of attraction in a woman is based in such primitive pre-language circuits that it happens too quickly and they have no hope of articulating the actual THING they liked.

This leads to women completely rationalizing their attraction after-the-fact, often with the first reason that pops into their heads! Like all humans, women cannot stand the cognitive dissonance of feeling something but not knowing why -- so they rationalize it away. Except women are not too interested in accuracy generally, so they will attribute ANY trait as the causative factor of their attraction.

So, join us over there at The Seduction Community!

Join us at TheSeductionCommunity.com!

Together with friends and colleagues, we have begun setting up a general-purpose forum on seduction which is open to everyone. We have aptly named it TheSeductionCommunity! Please join us over there.

Note: If you have an account at TheSeducers, then please register under your old username. TheSeductionCommunity is a separate forum, but we may be able to import the old forum posts. Consequently, the forum at TheSeducers will be frozen. But enough with the preliminary remarks, here is the announcement:


Our forum "The Seduction Community" is the result of our discontent with the general forum landscape on the Internet. There is literally no independent forum seduction left. Instead, sites such as mASF, MPUA Forum, RSD Nation, or the Attraction Forums are primarily used as a funnel for making people spend money on oftentimes questionable products.

Despite the rampant commercialism of mASF, it used to be the last remaining forum on which you could openly exchange your views. Well, this was at least the case until people like Aaron Sleazy, TVA_Oslo, TheCostOfSuccess, and SixtyYearsOfChallenge gained prominence and not only gathered a massive crowd of followers. They also questioned the efficiency of the mainstream teachings, which was still largely based on "routines" and baseless promises of "quick-fixes". Obviously, the stakeholders of mASF weren't too pleased about this development.

As the owner of mASF, Jay Valens aka "formhandle" let his forum fall into utter disarray, almost all influential members left his site more than two years ago. If you have been a member of it, you will probably agree that the competency of those people is sorely missing. However, the reason for our departure was not just hostility from the moderators and the owner of mASF, but also that mASF just didn't provide a suitable venue anymore due to its lack of moderation. "Trolling" is a problem you could easily fix, at least if you weren't complacent about it.

Also, the "signal-to-noise" ratio deteriorated dramatically, and looking for a decent post is akin to finding the proverbial needle in the haystack. This is also a result of poor management, because if you let inexperienced users post on every board, they will of course dilute the quality of the discussion. The negative consequences of this are obvious as well.

At "The Seduction Community" we have solutions to both problems. Not only do we have proper moderation to avoid trolling. We also have a two-tiered system of users. This means that every user starts out as a "beginner" and has access only to the beginners' section on this forum. However, as soon as he has contributed insightful posts, he will quickly be promoted to the rank of "seducer" and is allowed to post in every section of the forum.

We believe that this is a sensible approach to solving the problems that plague other seduction forums. Also, we are against rampant commercialism, which means that we will not use advertising on this forum, apart from links in signatures. However, everybody is welcome to join us, no matter for whom you work for or associate yourself with. It may be LoveSystems, Real Social Dynamics, PUA Training, BradP, or any other outlet. But be aware that this place is run by some very experienced people, and our bullshit detector works very well.

Lastly, the aim of our site is not to become the biggest seduction-related forum on the Internet, but the best. We invite everyone to join us, no matter at which level he may be. Together, we will achieve what has been sorely missing on the large commercially driven forums on the Internet: to become a true community that will allow people to improve and learn from each other.