I've been cleaning up my harddrive for the past two days and came across a hilarious screenshot from Facebook. To be honest, I can't quite remember where it came from. It's enjoyable anyway, as we witness Cajun bragging (obviously grossly exaggerated if not completely made up) about his birthday. While in truth, he probably sat at home and was drinking with his all-male group of "friends" from LoveSystems, he fantasized about having had a birthday in true action hero style. One girl was less amused though.
As questionable as bragging/making up stories to entertain imaginary friends might be (once you have passed your 12th birthday), the stuff Lovesystem actually teaches is much worse for your "development".
Showing posts with label love systems. Show all posts
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Monday, November 29, 2010
Friday, November 19, 2010
PUA Mehow awes the crowd. Here we go, "Chick Magnet"!
Our favourite Polish PUA who turned into a professional pickup coach after his first "lay", and the "mastermind" behind groundbreaking works of juvenile fiction such as "Get the Girl" and some must see DVDs, if you aspire to become a creep, appeared on TV again:
User "puaguru" from PUAHate, who discovered this masterpiece, commented:
Here are some highlights from the comments, in raw unedited form. They also show that "common sense" is not that uncommon than you might think, if you've spent some time in the deluded seduction community.
First, before we get to the hilarious and possibly even insulting stuff, I've picked some objective ones:
There's also a classic exchange on "looks don't matter":
Reply:
On RSDNation or Love System's forum saying the obvious truth like that will get you banned immediately, by the way.
But now it's time for some less respectful comments:
I couldn't force myself to click past page 10 or 11 of the comments because I had gotten enough "lulz".
So, is anyone of you betting that Mehow will put those testimonials up on his website anytime soon?
User "puaguru" from PUAHate, who discovered this masterpiece, commented:
What's funny is that all the normal people watching this leave hateful comments and make fun of him just like we do.
Here are some highlights from the comments, in raw unedited form. They also show that "common sense" is not that uncommon than you might think, if you've spent some time in the deluded seduction community.
First, before we get to the hilarious and possibly even insulting stuff, I've picked some objective ones:
it's ridiculous the amount of books by these so-called gurus on how to pick up girls. Seems to me the primary motive is the green and they don't give a shit what results you get.
This whole pickup subculture, or whatever it is, is largely fake and it's not about seducing women, it's about seducing men, lonely, desperate men with unrealistic expectations in life.
Does he really pull that many?
"Give value". What a stupid goddamn tip. I don't care if this Mehow guy is "one of the hottest pick-up artists in the scene", I doubt he can pick up any pussy. If you want to pick up a woman you have to be a man. Let her know that you want to fuck her, don't act like this jackass.
this guy is a douche!lol..whenever any guy tells you he has all the answers100 percent, he aint got any!lol
There's also a classic exchange on "looks don't matter":
learning for personal experience . NOT books or waste hard earned money on useless boot-camps . Good looks only give a guy a 30 sec to a 1 min head start. If a girl finds out your boring or creepy that's when she will lose interest. A good example of ugly is singer & song writer Billy Joel . He married super model Chirstie Brinkley and had kids with her. That's huge accomplishment for a ugly dude.
This also proves that looks don't always win over the girl.
Reply:
billy joel also has millions of dollars you tool.
On RSDNation or Love System's forum saying the obvious truth like that will get you banned immediately, by the way.
But now it's time for some less respectful comments:
man fuk dis. i bet the only time this guys getting pussy is in a sex change
lol this guy is clearly gay.
Creeper! Wow girl magnet??
This is a joke right? what the hell is this guy talking about? no girl these days goes for this shit, yeah be funny but don't be a weirdo dork with miscellaneous jokes that no one understands
his head looks like a messed up cock!lol
This guy's full of shit. He has superficial manipulation written across his face. I can sense this bullshit a mile away.
has he got fucking cancer or some shit? mehow the retard PUA
He looks like Quentin Taratino's mongloid brother.
This guy pays for pussy.
I would pay money to see this guy pick up a girl and take her home... without paying her to come with him.
I couldn't force myself to click past page 10 or 11 of the comments because I had gotten enough "lulz".
So, is anyone of you betting that Mehow will put those testimonials up on his website anytime soon?
Sunday, November 7, 2010
Assanova Reviews The Sleazy Stories
One of the blogs I follow is run by Assanova, who is one of the sane voices in the "seduction community". Part of it might be due to the fact that he is not affiliated with any pickup company and is therefore free to tell the honest truth. Love Systems and others would quickly go out of business if they promoted views such as:
(From "Looks are your best investment")
Such is certainly a refreshing statement. If this is too blunt for you, feel free to subscribe to guys like "Jeremy Soul" (aka. London Soul from Lovesystems), who has pearls of wisdom like this to offer:
(From a post titled "Why Women Flake on You".)
Of course it couldn't be that the best "attraction game" there is consists of getting a decent haircut, work out, and get some good clothes. But I'm already rambling. Let's get back to Assanova. He has recently reviewed my book Sleazy Stories. Here is an excerpt:
Check out the full review if you are curious what those two reasons might be, and have a look around his website, too. He has some really great content.
Lastly, if you haven't bought your copy of Sleazy Stories yet, get it on Amazon.com, Amazon.co.uk, or The Book Depository.
So many of you go out night after night, trying to work this angle and that angle, spending a ridiculous amount of money on alcohol, while playing a massive numbers game. For a second, think about all of the nights that you went out trying to work this angle and that angle, only to end up with a bunch of flakes. Imagine how toned you would be by now if you even spent a fraction of that time in the gym.
(From "Looks are your best investment")
Such is certainly a refreshing statement. If this is too blunt for you, feel free to subscribe to guys like "Jeremy Soul" (aka. London Soul from Lovesystems), who has pearls of wisdom like this to offer:
Why do flakes happen?
Flakes can happen because of a lack of Attraction, Qualification, or Comfort. It’s not just a Comfort issue like most people assume. If a flake happens, think back to the interaction for clues as to what caused it. If a woman called you cute you know Attraction wasn’t the problem, and it’s either Qualification or Comfort. If you never gave her any compliments, then she was probably wondering why you liked you her (i.e. Qualification).
(From a post titled "Why Women Flake on You".)
Of course it couldn't be that the best "attraction game" there is consists of getting a decent haircut, work out, and get some good clothes. But I'm already rambling. Let's get back to Assanova. He has recently reviewed my book Sleazy Stories. Here is an excerpt:
We've all read such stories from gurus. They run a routine stack, and they're pulling one-night stands with 9's and 10's every day of the week. However, after further reading, I could see that this Aaron Sleazy guy was really being honest in his stories. Of course, he got a lot of lays, but as an experienced guy who has been gaming for years, I could see that he was telling the truth.
How? Well, there are two reasons
Check out the full review if you are curious what those two reasons might be, and have a look around his website, too. He has some really great content.
Lastly, if you haven't bought your copy of Sleazy Stories yet, get it on Amazon.com, Amazon.co.uk, or The Book Depository.
Thursday, September 2, 2010
The Marketing Syndicate and the Business Cycle of the Seduction Industry, Part I
Salty Droid recently ran a couple of very interesting posts about a syndicate of Internet marketers. Given the close relationship between “gurus” in the seduction industry and Internet marketers --- it is often said that Internet marketers are the gurus of the seduction marketers ---, those findings are indeed revealing and can be used to draw many parallels. If you have followed the seduction industry for a while, a lot of it will sound eerily familiar to you.
Here is Salty Droid’s take on the Syndicate:
Of course this level of specialization only started after the big categories like “routines-based game” and “direct game” were filled, in addition to whatever it is that Real Social Dynamics is advocating. Then there was a focus on “day game” and the online game fraction is getting bigger, too.
If you have been around for a while, you might have noticed that there was always a release to look forward to. Neil Strauss aka. Style released his “Annihilation Method”, Venusian Arts their “Mind of Mystery”, and Mehow had his “Infield Exposed”, which is easily the most bizarre stuff I have ever seen. Then another crop of people turned up. Suddenly PUATraining and “Gambler” were pushing products. By that time people were telling me that if you have signed up for one guy’s newsletter, you suddenly got bombarded by emails in which other products were being pushed as well. This was arguably the phase when cross-promoting (affiliate marketing) got popular.
By that time people seemed to slowly wake up to all the nonsense those companies spout out. Of course, if there is a ton of competition you better differentiate yourself and find your own niche. However, for the amount of money some people charge for ascaminar seminar on “how to pickup strippers” you could directly spend it on the strippers yourself --- and have sex with them until you are getting sick of it.
But back to “The Syndicate” and Salty Droid:
The comment about price-fixing was true at least until recently. While Neil Strauss wanted to sell his “Annihilation Method” DVDs for close to $4.000, which is downright obscene, others were a bit more modest and just charged the comparatively modest sum of two grand. Unfortunately for our sad bunch of seduction gurus, the Seduction Market is much smaller than the market the Internet goo-roos want to serve, which presumably includes a lot of wannabe seduction gurus. For this reason you still have the Internet crowd trying to charge two grand for their "products", but the seduction gurus either stopped producing DVDs or lowered the prices drastically. Some people now sell their DVD sets for less than $200, which is still an extremely high figure given production costs. Others such as Real Social Dynamics have stopped releasing “programs” altogether, which is a shame since I was so eagerly looking forward to the stuff that was supposed to be released after the “Blueprint” and “Flawless Natural”. RSD claimed it would “really blow your mind”, but I guess it won’t anymore. Shame on all those "piratefags".
To be continued...
Here is Salty Droid’s take on the Syndicate:
The Syndicate is a cartel at the center of the get rich quick world of Internet Marketing. Each of the members tries to pass himself off as a freewheeling entrepreneur. (…) Each sells a version of this easy freedom in a bottle to seekers … the sadder the seeker … the better. But the dream :: like the cake :: is a lie. Success in “the industry” correlates not with value :: individuality :: or effort … but with proximity to a toxic core whose basic operations constitute a serious felony and moral failing.In plain language this means that we have Internet marketers A, B, C, …, N who all have their own special products that cater for a certain problem. But the seduction industry does not have people worrying about improving their “click-through rate” but instead minimizing the number of flaky phone numbers, which then gives rise to a 3 DVD set with the title “No Flakes!”, co-created by Vin DiCarlo, one of my long-time favourites. Maybe Vin should start to work out if he gets too many flakes.
Of course this level of specialization only started after the big categories like “routines-based game” and “direct game” were filled, in addition to whatever it is that Real Social Dynamics is advocating. Then there was a focus on “day game” and the online game fraction is getting bigger, too.
If you have been around for a while, you might have noticed that there was always a release to look forward to. Neil Strauss aka. Style released his “Annihilation Method”, Venusian Arts their “Mind of Mystery”, and Mehow had his “Infield Exposed”, which is easily the most bizarre stuff I have ever seen. Then another crop of people turned up. Suddenly PUATraining and “Gambler” were pushing products. By that time people were telling me that if you have signed up for one guy’s newsletter, you suddenly got bombarded by emails in which other products were being pushed as well. This was arguably the phase when cross-promoting (affiliate marketing) got popular.
By that time people seemed to slowly wake up to all the nonsense those companies spout out. Of course, if there is a ton of competition you better differentiate yourself and find your own niche. However, for the amount of money some people charge for a
But back to “The Syndicate” and Salty Droid:
The Syndicate keeps prices high :: and dissent low. The Syndicate all but eliminates marketplace competition. (…) The Syndicate uses tough :: tasteless :: and intimidating tactics to defend against what it sees as threats to its unrightful domain.
The comment about price-fixing was true at least until recently. While Neil Strauss wanted to sell his “Annihilation Method” DVDs for close to $4.000, which is downright obscene, others were a bit more modest and just charged the comparatively modest sum of two grand. Unfortunately for our sad bunch of seduction gurus, the Seduction Market is much smaller than the market the Internet goo-roos want to serve, which presumably includes a lot of wannabe seduction gurus. For this reason you still have the Internet crowd trying to charge two grand for their "products", but the seduction gurus either stopped producing DVDs or lowered the prices drastically. Some people now sell their DVD sets for less than $200, which is still an extremely high figure given production costs. Others such as Real Social Dynamics have stopped releasing “programs” altogether, which is a shame since I was so eagerly looking forward to the stuff that was supposed to be released after the “Blueprint” and “Flawless Natural”. RSD claimed it would “really blow your mind”, but I guess it won’t anymore. Shame on all those "piratefags".
To be continued...
Wednesday, May 19, 2010
Chat Session with DutchAttraction.nl tomorrow
Tomorrow I'll have a chat session with the guys at DutchAttraction.nl. I'll answer questions for about an hour. You can submit questions in the thread Chat sessie / 20-05-2010 / Aaron Sleazy. However, for that you'll have to register first, in order to access this (primarily Dutch speaking) forum.
An interesting side note: DutchAttraction.nl was founded after people got more and more discontent with the rampant censorship and random banning of people in the Dutch section of Love System's Attraction Forum. As far as I can tell, it has become a rather active community and is already the premier forum in the Netherlands.
An interesting side note: DutchAttraction.nl was founded after people got more and more discontent with the rampant censorship and random banning of people in the Dutch section of Love System's Attraction Forum. As far as I can tell, it has become a rather active community and is already the premier forum in the Netherlands.
Thursday, March 4, 2010
"But the community stuff works, dude, it really does!"
Apparently my slides on "Overcoming the Seduction Community" are spreading like wildfire. To compare it, Love Systems has 107 documents on Scribd, and 100 of those have less reads than my slides had after just two days. Anyway, onto a recent email:
The quote in bold is the kicker, btw.
So, let's pull some magic out of Youtube's hat and have a look at this hapless amateur -- oh, I'm sorry, I meant to write "professional pickup instructor from RSD aka Real Social Dynamics":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42A_PXAPn3k
The woman tries to hand him his pussy over and over, and "Brad-" is too insecure to deal with the situation. His own comments on the video are nothing but hilarious: "starting kino escalaton ;)".
This short clip is a great expression of what is wrong with "game": guys don't seem to understand that woman really want to have sex. Really. They are yours for the taking. However, a guy educated in "game" misses all the signs and follows some inane theory on how to get girls when he has just to take them. Seduction is always mutual. The girl wants to be kissed, and the guy thinks of ways of "getting from A1 to A2" (if you don't get this reference, good for you, it's a jab at Mystery Method).
It is not the case that "game" works. People merely believe it does because they fail to realise that the woman is already interested. Yet, they keep on spouting out their lines, but because they focus too little on what is in front of them, they waste their time in the best case. In the worst case, though, they lose the girl because most women can't stand guys that don't dare to make a move. You don't get girls because of "game" -- you get them despite game, because they were tolerant enough to put up with it.
About the "5 to 10 women" bit in my seminar. The context was that if you have a life (!) outside of pickup, go out once or twice a month, have some hobbies, friends and the like, then this number is pretty decent.
Lastly, about the in-field videos: what do they exactly show? Some dude too afraid to ask for a number directly ("number close routine"), another guy too afraid to make a move (like the RSD guy above)? Probably I am missing something here... Feel free to point me to a source and I'll show you how this guy is wasting time with his "method" or f*cking it up royally.
First of all, I'd like to say you're not necessarily incorrect with most of your statements.. They can be true for a lot of people.. However..
How do you explain my friends and me, who live in Belgium (not UK/London or USA) who use a lot of routines etc. to Date, have relationships, fuck buddies etc. If the PU world is so full of shit.. Why does all that stuff work? One of my friends has a habit of constaly keeping 5-6 fuck buddies/open polygamous relationships. He uses routines all the time. He learned the game. If I tell him 5-10 women a year is a lot he'll laugh at me. Also, how do you explain the huge amount of pick-up videos shot "in-field" that show the game as taught by David Deangelo (a "marketer"), Mystery (a "magician"), etc WORK?
So if you could please offer an explanation for these facts I'd be very pleased to objectively read it AND if you convince me I WILL get your material and WILL advertise your material using Facebook and my network for free.
The quote in bold is the kicker, btw.
So, let's pull some magic out of Youtube's hat and have a look at this hapless amateur -- oh, I'm sorry, I meant to write "professional pickup instructor from RSD aka Real Social Dynamics":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42A_PXAPn3k
The woman tries to hand him his pussy over and over, and "Brad-" is too insecure to deal with the situation. His own comments on the video are nothing but hilarious: "starting kino escalaton ;)".
This short clip is a great expression of what is wrong with "game": guys don't seem to understand that woman really want to have sex. Really. They are yours for the taking. However, a guy educated in "game" misses all the signs and follows some inane theory on how to get girls when he has just to take them. Seduction is always mutual. The girl wants to be kissed, and the guy thinks of ways of "getting from A1 to A2" (if you don't get this reference, good for you, it's a jab at Mystery Method).
It is not the case that "game" works. People merely believe it does because they fail to realise that the woman is already interested. Yet, they keep on spouting out their lines, but because they focus too little on what is in front of them, they waste their time in the best case. In the worst case, though, they lose the girl because most women can't stand guys that don't dare to make a move. You don't get girls because of "game" -- you get them despite game, because they were tolerant enough to put up with it.
About the "5 to 10 women" bit in my seminar. The context was that if you have a life (!) outside of pickup, go out once or twice a month, have some hobbies, friends and the like, then this number is pretty decent.
Lastly, about the in-field videos: what do they exactly show? Some dude too afraid to ask for a number directly ("number close routine"), another guy too afraid to make a move (like the RSD guy above)? Probably I am missing something here... Feel free to point me to a source and I'll show you how this guy is wasting time with his "method" or f*cking it up royally.
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